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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:34 pm 
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How can Admin know for certain that use doesn't cause a person to be violent? What evidence do you have to back up that claim?


1. There is no scientific evidence that it causes violence. None. If there was, the anti-drug groups would be showing it down our throats.
2. I grew up in a resort town in the North East, where there was nothing for teenagers to do for 8 months of the year. This led to extensive first hand knowledge of various drugs. Not once did I witness or experience anyone (myself included) becoming more violent or aggressive after using marijuana.


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Cindy wrote:
How can Admin know for certain that use doesn't cause a person to be violent? What evidence do you have to back up that claim?


1. There is no scientific evidence that it causes violence. None. If there was, the anti-drug groups would be showing it down our throats.
2. I grew up in a resort town in the North East, where there was nothing for teenagers to do for 8 months of the year. This led to extensive first hand knowledge of various drugs. Not once did I witness or experience anyone (myself included) becoming more violent or aggressive after using marijuana.

Violent Behavior
as Related to Use of Marijuana
and Other Drugs
Alfred S. Friedman, PhD
Kimberly Glassman, BA
Arlene Terras, PhD
ABSTRACT. The relationship of the degree of use of each of ten types
of illicit drugs with each of eight types of violent criminal offenses, is
reported for an African-American, inner-city, low SES, young adult
study sample (N = 612). Prospective data from the time of birth was
available for the statistical analyses, to provide 51 control variables on
factors other than substance use which might predict to later violent
behavior.
Findings: Greater frequency of use of marijuana was found unexpectedly
to be associated with greater likelihood to commit weapons
offenses; and this association was not found for any of the other drugs,
except for alcohol. Marijuana use was also found associated with commission
of Attempted Homicide/Reckless Endangerment offenses. Cocaine/
crack and marijuana were the only two types of drugs the frequency
of use of which was found, for this sample, to be significantly
related to the frequency of being involved in the selling of drugs. These
findings may not apply to a middle-class African-American sample.
[Article copies available for a fee from The Haworth Document Delivery
Service: 1-800-342-9678. E-mail address: <getinfo@haworthpressinc.com>
Website: <http://www.HaworthPress.com> E 2001 by The Haworth Press, Inc.
All rights reserved.]


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Violent Behavior
as Related to Use of Marijuana
and Other Drugs
Alfred S. Friedman, PhD
Kimberly Glassman, BA


You didn't read the whole paper, did you?

"A limitation of this study is that the cause-effect relationship of the
marijuana-violence linkage is not totally clear. It is possible to inter-
pret the findings to mean that earlier tendencies to act violently in-
fluenced the subjects to use marijuana, as a form of self-medication to
obtain relief from the inner tension caused by violent tendencies."

So... the researchers have no idea if their data shows violent people use marijuana, or if marijuana increases violent tendencies. The age old chicken or egg question.


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• Research has now established that marijuana is addictive. Each year, more teens enter treatment with a primary diagnosis of marijuana dependence than for all other illicit drugs combined. Over sixty percent of teens admitted to drug treatment cite marijuana as their primary substance of abuse.

• Research also shows that marijuana use is three times more likely to lead to dependence among adolescents than among adults.

• Research indicates that the earlier kids start using marijuana, the more likely they are to become dependent on this or other illicit drugs later in life.

• The proportion of admissions for primary marijuana abuse increased from 6% in 1992 to 64% percent of admissions in 2002. Almost half (46 percent) of the people admitted for marijuana were under 20 years old. Of those admitted for treatment for primary marijuana dependence, 56 percent had first used the drug by age 14, and 26 percent had begun by age 12.

• Even marijuana proponents acknowledge that marijuana use is harmful for teens. Allen St. Pierre, the executive director of NORML (National Organization for the Reform of Marjuana Laws) recently stated that "One can argue before a young person reaches full brain development in their early 20's, they should not use or have legal access to marijuana." (The Ledger, Lakeland Florida , January 3, 2005 ).

• Scientists have proven that marijuana users experience changes in the flow of blood to their brains. Ronald Herning of the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) found that marijuana smokers may suffer from narrowed blood vessels in their brains, possibly explaining why smokers experience memory and thinking problems. (reported in the Chicago Sun Times, February 8, 2005 ).

Fact: Marjuana is physically harmful.


Click to enlarge photo.• The brain. Smoking marijuana leads to some changes in the brain similar to those caused by cocaine, heroin and alcohol.

• According to Dr. Marvin Seppala, the Chief Medical Officer at the Hazelden Foundation, a prominent drug recovery center in Minnesota , "The younger people begin using marijuana, especially before the age of 21, the likelier they are to become addicted to an addictive substance. Their addiction is both physiological and psychological.Studies on the brain have shown that pot use alters the hippocampus and affects short-term memory.As an adolescent, there are remarkable experiences that contribute to growth.these need to be set down into memory—and pot use stops this." ( quoted in the Lakeland , Florida paper The Ledger, January 3, 2005 .)

• Lung damage. Regular marijuana users often develop breathing problems including chronic coughing and wheezing. Marijuana contains the same cancer-causing chemicals as tobacco. The amount of tar inhaled by marijuana smokers and the level of carbon monoxide absorbed by those who smoke marijuana, regardless of THC content, are three to five times greater than among tobacco smokers. Smoking five marijuana cigarettes is equal to smoking a full pack of tobacco cigarettes. According to the American Lung Association, there is 50-70% more cancer causing material in marijuana smoke than in cigarette smoke. In fact, marijuana smoke contains more than 400 chemicals.


In a recent article in the Journal of General Internal Medicine respected scientists at Yale University concluded that smoking marijuana is associated with an increased risk of many of the same respiratory problems that afflict cigarette smokers including shortness of breath, wheezing, chronic bronchitis, coughing and phlegm. Researchers also found that marijuana smoking may also expose a user's respiratory system to infectious organisms such as molds and fungi. That's because many marijuana plants are already contaminated with different kinds of fungal spores. “Marijuana Associated with Same Respiratory Symptoms as Tobacco,” YALE News Release. 13 January 2005.

Marijuana proponents will tell you that bong water pipes will filter out these toxins. In fact, marijuana's primary cancer-causing tar, benzopyrene, does not dissolve in water. That means a bong cannot protect your lungs from this danger.

• Mental health. For young users, marijuana can lead to increased anxiety, panic attacks, depression and other mental health problems. For those already prone to depression or anxiety attacks, marijuana use may accelerate or exacerbate problems.

• The United Kingdom Department of Health acknowledged in January, 2005 that cannabis is an “important causal factor” in mental illness. A spokesman for the Department said that “There is medical clinical evidence now that there is an important causal factor between cannabis use and schizophrenia—not the only factor, but an important causal factor. That is the common consensus among the medical fraternity.” (BBC News, January 29, 2005). READ MORE >>
Because of this, the UK is reconsidering its cannabis policies. READ MORE >>

• A British mental health organization, Rethink, reported that “there had been a 60% increase in people who had smoked (cannabis) and had mental problems in the last five years. (BBC News, January 29, 2005). READ MORE >>

• A study conducted by Maastricht University (Netherlands) and published in the British Medical Journal reported that frequent cannabis use during adolescence and young adulthood raises the risk of psychotic symptoms later in life. (BBC News, December 1, 2004). British medical officials are also concerned about the number of cannabis-related mental illness admissions to mental wards. Marjorie Wallace, chief executive of the mental health charity Sane, told the London Daily Mail that “In London 80 percent of people assessed with a first episode of psychosis are on cannabis. The explosion of cannabis-induced psychosis is already happening.” (London Daily Mail, June 21, 2005). READ MORE >>


Fact: Marijuana Affects Learning and Academic Achievement

• Researchers have found that heavy marijuana use impairs the ability of young people to concentrate and retain information. Regular marijuana use has been shown to be associated with cognitive deficits and poor academic performance. This may be especially problematic during teens' peak learning years, when their brains are still developing.

• One study found an association between an increase in adolescent marijuana use and a decrease in the likelihood of attaining at least a high school education.

• Research found that youths with an average grade of "D" or below were more than four times as likely to have used marijuana in the past year as youths who reported an average grade of "A." “Marijuana Use Negatively Impacts Teen Learning and Academic Success, Experts Say” PR Newswire. 7 October 2004.

• Students who have smoked marijuana within the past year are more than twice as likely to cut class than those who did not smoke, and health problems associated with using marijuana can keep students from attending school due to illness.

Fact: Marijuana Is Linked to Risky Behaviors

• Research shows that kids who use marijuana in early adolescence are more likely to engage in risky behaviors that may put their futures in jeopardy, such delinquency; having multiple sexual partners; perceiving drugs as not harmful; and having more friends who exhibit deviant behavior.

• Despite popular notions, research has shown a link between frequent marijuana use and increased violent behavior. Research found that among youth, the incidence of physically attacking people, destroying property and stealing increased in proportion to the number of days marijuana was smoked in the past year. Department of Health and Human Services, Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, Office of Applied Studies. “Marijuana Use and Delinquent Behaviors and Youths.” The NSDUH Report. 9 January 2004.

• In 2002, approximately 21 percent of youths (5 million) engaged in serious fighting at school or work, almost 16 percent (4 million) took part in a group-against-group fight, and almost 8 percent (2 million) attacked someone with the intent to seriously hurt them during the past year. Nearly 5 percent of youths (1.2 million) stole or tried to steal something worth more than $50, more than 4 percent (1.1 million) sold illegal drugs, and more than 3 percent (800,000) carried a handgun during the past year. The percentages of youths engaging in delinquent behaviors in the past year rose with increasing frequency of marijuana use. Department of Health and Human Services, Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, Office of Applied Studies. “Marijuana Use and Delinquent Behaviors and Youths.” The NSDUH Report. 9 January 2004.

• According to the National Household Survey on Drug Abuse (now the National Survey on Health) adolescents 12-17 who use marijuana weekly are nine times more likely than non-users to experiment with other illegal drugs or alcohol, five times more likely to steal and nearly four times more likely to engage in violence.

Fact: Marijuana Interferes with Driving Abilities

• Marijuana affects alertness, concentration, perception, coordination and reaction time, many of the skills required for safe driving and other tasks. These effects can last several hours after smoking marijuana. Marijuana use can also make it difficult to judge distances and react to signals and sounds on the road.

• Research has provided more evidence of the prevalence of drugged driving and the resulting consequences. A roadside study of reckless drivers who were not impaired by alcohol showed that 45 percent tested positive for marijuana. “White House Drug Czar Launches Campaign to Stop Drugged Driving.” Office of National Drug Control Policy Press Release. 19 November 2002.

• Research conducted by the University of Auckland, New Zealand, proves the link between marijuana use and car accidents. The research found that habitual cannabis users were 9.5 times more likely to be involved in crashes, with 5.6% of people who had crashed having taken the drug, compared to 0.5% of the control group. READ MORE >>

Marijuana's Other Dangers

The substances in marijuana stay in the fatty parts of the body for long periods of time.

A 50% concentration of THC can be found in the body up to eight days after using marijuana and traces can be found in the body up to 3 months after use . THC, the active ingredient in marijuana, accumulates particularly in the testes, liver and brain of users.

PET scans (a brain mapping method which allows scientists to visualize what is happening in the brain) of regular marijuana users show that marijuana may continue to impact the brain three or more days after use, particularly affecting motor coordination, memory and learning. According to two studies, marijuana use narrows the arteries in the brain, “similar to patients with high blood pressure and dementia” and may explain why memory tests are difficult for marijuana users. In addition, “chronic consumers of cannabis lose molecules called CB1 receptors in the brain’s arteries,” leading to blood flow problems in the brain which can cause memory loss, attention deficits, and impaired learning ability.” “Marijuana Affects Brain Long-Term Study Finds.” Reuters. 8 February 2005. Also, “Marijuana Affects Blood Vessels,” BBC News. 8 February 2005. “Marijuana Affects Blood Flow to Brain.” The Chicago Sun –Times. 8 February 2005; Querna, Elizabeth. “Pot Head.” US News and World Report. 8 February 2005.


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• Research has now established that marijuana is addictive. Each year, more teens enter treatment with a primary diagnosis of marijuana dependence than for all other illicit drugs combined. Over sixty percent of teens admitted to drug treatment cite marijuana as their primary substance of abuse.

• Research also shows that marijuana use is three times more likely to lead to dependence among adolescents than among adults.

• Research indicates that the earlier kids start using marijuana, the more likely they are to become dependent on this or other illicit drugs later in life.

• The proportion of admissions for primary marijuana abuse increased from 6% in 1992 to 64% percent of admissions in 2002. Almost half (46 percent) of the people admitted for marijuana were under 20 years old. Of those admitted for treatment for primary marijuana dependence, 56 percent had first used the drug by age 14, and 26 percent had begun by age 12.

• Even marijuana proponents acknowledge that marijuana use is harmful for teens. Allen St. Pierre, the executive director of NORML (National Organization for the Reform of Marjuana Laws) recently stated that "One can argue before a young person reaches full brain development in their early 20's, they should not use or have legal access to marijuana." (The Ledger, Lakeland Florida , January 3, 2005 ).

• Scientists have proven that marijuana users experience changes in the flow of blood to their brains. Ronald Herning of the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) found that marijuana smokers may suffer from narrowed blood vessels in their brains, possibly explaining why smokers experience memory and thinking problems. (reported in the Chicago Sun Times, February 8, 2005 ).

Fact: Marjuana is physically harmful.


Click to enlarge photo.• The brain. Smoking marijuana leads to some changes in the brain similar to those caused by cocaine, heroin and alcohol.

• According to Dr. Marvin Seppala, the Chief Medical Officer at the Hazelden Foundation, a prominent drug recovery center in Minnesota , "The younger people begin using marijuana, especially before the age of 21, the likelier they are to become addicted to an addictive substance. Their addiction is both physiological and psychological.Studies on the brain have shown that pot use alters the hippocampus and affects short-term memory.As an adolescent, there are remarkable experiences that contribute to growth.these need to be set down into memory—and pot use stops this." ( quoted in the Lakeland , Florida paper The Ledger, January 3, 2005 .)

• Lung damage. Regular marijuana users often develop breathing problems including chronic coughing and wheezing. Marijuana contains the same cancer-causing chemicals as tobacco. The amount of tar inhaled by marijuana smokers and the level of carbon monoxide absorbed by those who smoke marijuana, regardless of THC content, are three to five times greater than among tobacco smokers. Smoking five marijuana cigarettes is equal to smoking a full pack of tobacco cigarettes. According to the American Lung Association, there is 50-70% more cancer causing material in marijuana smoke than in cigarette smoke. In fact, marijuana smoke contains more than 400 chemicals.


In a recent article in the Journal of General Internal Medicine respected scientists at Yale University concluded that smoking marijuana is associated with an increased risk of many of the same respiratory problems that afflict cigarette smokers including shortness of breath, wheezing, chronic bronchitis, coughing and phlegm. Researchers also found that marijuana smoking may also expose a user's respiratory system to infectious organisms such as molds and fungi. That's because many marijuana plants are already contaminated with different kinds of fungal spores. “Marijuana Associated with Same Respiratory Symptoms as Tobacco,” YALE News Release. 13 January 2005.

Marijuana proponents will tell you that bong water pipes will filter out these toxins. In fact, marijuana's primary cancer-causing tar, benzopyrene, does not dissolve in water. That means a bong cannot protect your lungs from this danger.

• Mental health. For young users, marijuana can lead to increased anxiety, panic attacks, depression and other mental health problems. For those already prone to depression or anxiety attacks, marijuana use may accelerate or exacerbate problems.

• The United Kingdom Department of Health acknowledged in January, 2005 that cannabis is an “important causal factor” in mental illness. A spokesman for the Department said that “There is medical clinical evidence now that there is an important causal factor between cannabis use and schizophrenia—not the only factor, but an important causal factor. That is the common consensus among the medical fraternity.” (BBC News, January 29, 2005). READ MORE >>
Because of this, the UK is reconsidering its cannabis policies. READ MORE >>

• A British mental health organization, Rethink, reported that “there had been a 60% increase in people who had smoked (cannabis) and had mental problems in the last five years. (BBC News, January 29, 2005). READ MORE >>

• A study conducted by Maastricht University (Netherlands) and published in the British Medical Journal reported that frequent cannabis use during adolescence and young adulthood raises the risk of psychotic symptoms later in life. (BBC News, December 1, 2004). British medical officials are also concerned about the number of cannabis-related mental illness admissions to mental wards. Marjorie Wallace, chief executive of the mental health charity Sane, told the London Daily Mail that “In London 80 percent of people assessed with a first episode of psychosis are on cannabis. The explosion of cannabis-induced psychosis is already happening.” (London Daily Mail, June 21, 2005). READ MORE >>


Fact: Marijuana Affects Learning and Academic Achievement

• Researchers have found that heavy marijuana use impairs the ability of young people to concentrate and retain information. Regular marijuana use has been shown to be associated with cognitive deficits and poor academic performance. This may be especially problematic during teens' peak learning years, when their brains are still developing.

• One study found an association between an increase in adolescent marijuana use and a decrease in the likelihood of attaining at least a high school education.

• Research found that youths with an average grade of "D" or below were more than four times as likely to have used marijuana in the past year as youths who reported an average grade of "A." “Marijuana Use Negatively Impacts Teen Learning and Academic Success, Experts Say” PR Newswire. 7 October 2004.

• Students who have smoked marijuana within the past year are more than twice as likely to cut class than those who did not smoke, and health problems associated with using marijuana can keep students from attending school due to illness.

Fact: Marijuana Is Linked to Risky Behaviors

• Research shows that kids who use marijuana in early adolescence are more likely to engage in risky behaviors that may put their futures in jeopardy, such delinquency; having multiple sexual partners; perceiving drugs as not harmful; and having more friends who exhibit deviant behavior.

• Despite popular notions, research has shown a link between frequent marijuana use and increased violent behavior. Research found that among youth, the incidence of physically attacking people, destroying property and stealing increased in proportion to the number of days marijuana was smoked in the past year. Department of Health and Human Services, Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, Office of Applied Studies. “Marijuana Use and Delinquent Behaviors and Youths.” The NSDUH Report. 9 January 2004.

• In 2002, approximately 21 percent of youths (5 million) engaged in serious fighting at school or work, almost 16 percent (4 million) took part in a group-against-group fight, and almost 8 percent (2 million) attacked someone with the intent to seriously hurt them during the past year. Nearly 5 percent of youths (1.2 million) stole or tried to steal something worth more than $50, more than 4 percent (1.1 million) sold illegal drugs, and more than 3 percent (800,000) carried a handgun during the past year. The percentages of youths engaging in delinquent behaviors in the past year rose with increasing frequency of marijuana use. Department of Health and Human Services, Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, Office of Applied Studies. “Marijuana Use and Delinquent Behaviors and Youths.” The NSDUH Report. 9 January 2004.

• According to the National Household Survey on Drug Abuse (now the National Survey on Health) adolescents 12-17 who use marijuana weekly are nine times more likely than non-users to experiment with other illegal drugs or alcohol, five times more likely to steal and nearly four times more likely to engage in violence.

Fact: Marijuana Interferes with Driving Abilities

• Marijuana affects alertness, concentration, perception, coordination and reaction time, many of the skills required for safe driving and other tasks. These effects can last several hours after smoking marijuana. Marijuana use can also make it difficult to judge distances and react to signals and sounds on the road.

• Research has provided more evidence of the prevalence of drugged driving and the resulting consequences. A roadside study of reckless drivers who were not impaired by alcohol showed that 45 percent tested positive for marijuana. “White House Drug Czar Launches Campaign to Stop Drugged Driving.” Office of National Drug Control Policy Press Release. 19 November 2002.

• Research conducted by the University of Auckland, New Zealand, proves the link between marijuana use and car accidents. The research found that habitual cannabis users were 9.5 times more likely to be involved in crashes, with 5.6% of people who had crashed having taken the drug, compared to 0.5% of the control group. READ MORE >>

Marijuana's Other Dangers

The substances in marijuana stay in the fatty parts of the body for long periods of time.

A 50% concentration of THC can be found in the body up to eight days after using marijuana and traces can be found in the body up to 3 months after use . THC, the active ingredient in marijuana, accumulates particularly in the testes, liver and brain of users.

PET scans (a brain mapping method which allows scientists to visualize what is happening in the brain) of regular marijuana users show that marijuana may continue to impact the brain three or more days after use, particularly affecting motor coordination, memory and learning. According to two studies, marijuana use narrows the arteries in the brain, “similar to patients with high blood pressure and dementia” and may explain why memory tests are difficult for marijuana users. In addition, “chronic consumers of cannabis lose molecules called CB1 receptors in the brain’s arteries,” leading to blood flow problems in the brain which can cause memory loss, attention deficits, and impaired learning ability.” “Marijuana Affects Brain Long-Term Study Finds.” Reuters. 8 February 2005. Also, “Marijuana Affects Blood Vessels,” BBC News. 8 February 2005. “Marijuana Affects Blood Flow to Brain.” The Chicago Sun –Times. 8 February 2005; Querna, Elizabeth. “Pot Head.” US News and World Report. 8 February 2005.


Thanks Model A man, I have worked in the health care industry for years and personally observed the above way before any of these studies were done.


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I don't need medical reports to tell me how pot affects people. I've been in a situation in a relationship where it literally ruined it. Pot became the "mistress" that had to be hidden from me and used behind my back. It made the person lethargic, disinterested and sort of trapped him into a permanent adolescence. His idea of a great day was grabbing some Taco Bell and watching movies all afternoon. Umm..this was EVERY day.

He never accomplished anything, there seemed to be this permanent laziness/disinterest in things around him. It was pretty sad, because I really cared about him but realized the drug was simply always going to be more important. So I finally told him I was leaving, not in any long, drag out fight, I just told him I was leaving him to his dope so he could continue to live the life he was familiar with long before I came along.

Last I heard his new wife and he spent their evenings huffing laughing gas she had acquired from a doctor she knew.

I know firsthand that drugs, even something as benign as pot, can ruin relationships. I've had the same thing happen with alcohol as well, had to let the guy go so he could enjoy life full time with his mistress Coors.

Pot doesn't just screw up the user's brain, it can drive away people around them with their insolence, laziness and preoccupation/obsession with their next hit or drink. Sadly it really does screw people's connection to other people up.

Oh, and because I know people come screaming in here to point out contradictions, I am FOR medical marijuana. That's not what this is about. It's how drugs and drink really do screw up the dynamics of a relationship. In if you are in a relationship where it's no problem at all then more power to you..you found a way to make it work. But for the rest of us who don't want to play second fiddle to any sort of addiction, it's time to move on.


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JMO...but I think that if someone is inclined toward violence the use of alcohol or any drugs will accentuate that tendency and perhaps bring it to fruition.

Some drugs can create violence where there wasn't any, meth for example, produces some of the most insane violence imaginable (witness the guy who ate his little boys eyes for example) or PCP which causes someone to think they have superhuman ability and the news is filled with stories of six cops needed to take down one man on PCP. Heroin creates some real remorseless monsters. Some psycho tropics can produce some violence in some people where there was apparently none. There just are some drugs that create violence and produce violent people.

But some of the more mundane drugs like marijuana or alcohol I think bring it out if its there to be brought, not necessarily caused by the use but assisted if you will. I think that sadly marijuana becomes a stepping stone to some of the more violent producers and that often a marijuana user also uses other things so it becomes a cloudy area.

This is strictly my opinion based on a lifetime of experience of being in or near use of drugs and marijuana including many family members and my own personal experience as a teenager.

I think the trademark of pot is lethargy and lack of ambition. I think it is rare, though it can happen, to find a pot smoker that actually does do things of note. I am going to duck now cause I can see the keyboards heating up!!

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Do ya think any pot farms could have burned in our fire? Healthy minds want to know...LOL

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We're all breathing the same smoke. Has anyone been craving pork rinds or cheetohs more than usual lately? And by the way, how do I know that the purple I see is the same as the purple you see? Na-a-a-a-a-a-a. :lol:

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admin wrote:
Cindy wrote:
How can Admin know for certain that use doesn't cause a person to be violent? What evidence do you have to back up that claim?


1. There is no scientific evidence that it causes violence. None. If there was, the anti-drug groups would be showing it down our throats.
2. I grew up in a resort town in the North East, where there was nothing for teenagers to do for 8 months of the year. This led to extensive first hand knowledge of various drugs. Not once did I witness or experience anyone (myself included) becoming more violent or aggressive after using marijuana.


What! Haven't you seen Reefer Madness? :lol:


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 Post subject: Lawbreaking pharm-co's supported by locals at CVS/Rite-Aid?
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We got a so-called loitering, litter and building/business
code violation problem in town, and then we have
the "regular med" folks who are unwittingly
supporting the billion dollar corporate
mega-lawbreakers! I wonder which problem
is worse? I sure don't know. :|
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Pfizer-to ... 4.html?x=0
Pfizer to pay record $2.3Billion penalty over promotions
"Announcing the settlement Wednesday, the Justice Department said that it included the largest criminal fine in U.S. history -- $1.2 billion. The agreement also included a criminal forfeiture of $105 million.

Authorities called Pfizer a repeat offender, noting it is the fourth such settlement of government charges in the last decade."


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 Post subject: Marijuana Dispensary May Cause Histrionics
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Hummingbird wrote:
I think the trademark of pot is lethargy and lack of ambition. I think it is rare, though it can happen, to find a pot smoker that actually does do things of note. I am going to duck now cause I can see the keyboards heating up!!

Yeah, we only have to look at the last two (D) presidents
to see about the lack of ambition. One did not inhale
but was a good liar, the other is out-of-the closet about
his past and present addictions and has great potential for
either a good or bad legacy. Depends on your point of view.
Not sticking up for Bush, who had his own addictions, but
was none the less elected.

One thing I learned from someone out here
recently is "trust the professionals."

"Study Finds No Cancer-Marijuana Connection
By Marc Kaufman Washington Post Staff Writer Friday, May 26, 2006
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 29_pf.html
The largest study of its kind has unexpectedly concluded that smoking marijuana, even regularly and heavily, does not lead to lung cancer.
The new findings "were against our expectations," said Donald Tashkin of the University of California at Los Angeles, a pulmonologist who has studied marijuana for 30 years. "


http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle_blo ... es_not_cau
"Marijuana Increases the Risk of Psychosis by 40%: This one turned out to be totally wrong. Apparently a correlation between marijuana use and psychosis doesn't necessarily mean that marijuana caused the psychosis. Many of the researchers made this clear in their findings, but reporters left it out. Furthermore, none of the stories on this topic explained that the risk of psychosis is small, so a 40% increase isn't that significant to begin with. Reporters also failed to observe that massive increases in marijuana use over the past century have not corresponded with increased rates of psychosis.
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Conclusions:
Reading coverage of marijuana research in the mainstream press increases the risk of becoming misinformed by 50-300%. More research is clearly needed to identify further sources of flawed marijuana reporting. The risk of bad reporting remains stable despite concerted efforts to inform the media that hysterical claims about marijuana frequently lack scientific merit. Exposure to poorly researched news about marijuana is correlated with support for costly, ineffective, highly punitive marijuana laws."

One last thing, ALWAYS LOOK FOR THE UNION LABEL!
(Don't "forget" to read all the comments under the article)
http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaki ... gh_11.html


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 Post subject: Re: Marijuana Dispensary Attracts Lawbreakers
PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:11 pm 
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Just read about some pre school teachers in the LA area who ate tainted brownies. Reminds me of that movie- I love you Alice B. Tokless. Evidently a teacher bought them off the street for a fundraiser ($1.50ea). I think she bought 6. Some of them did get (mildly) sick. :o

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 Post subject: Re: Marijuana Dispensary Attracts Lawbreakers
PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:25 pm 
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Such a shame about the tainted brownies. How stupid but expected. Its only the beginning. Just think. These people will be your customer service reps, medical technicians, people caring for you in different capacities as you get older. (Look out. Its coming.)

Someone I know got very sick from "brownies" because the dispensary in Sunland-Tujunga did not communicate how to consume. This person is a cancer patient and became VERY ill for days and may not be well even today from consuming the "brownies".

It is a shame that for those medical marijuana is to provide help it causes problems for unsuspecting people due to lack of regulation by the City.

Medical Marijuana attracks lawbreakers in the City of L.A. They (the lawbreakers) do not care. They want the $ only. They are not truly "registered caregivers" or "caregivers" at all.

The children who enjoy it for recreational use are not sick. They just want you to "think" they are sick. I feel sorry for their future.

Regulations need to be in place and enforced. This includes land use, health and dispensing. Who will pay for this enforcement? If no enforcement then our communities are "out of control".

The drain on those unsuspected folks is sad and not the intention of medical marijuana.

It is such a shame. Why is S-T the dumping ground for the spoiled brats and burnouts?


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 Post subject: Re: Marijuana Dispensary Attracts Lawbreakers
PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:19 pm 
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All drugs, are bad. Bad habits are detrimental to our happiness. Addiction sucks. What else is new? Having dealt with both kinds of addicts, I'll take a pot head over an alcoholic any day.

I suppose them forefathers were a bunch of losers too, eh?
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