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 Post subject: A recent "Investor's Business Daily" article
PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 2:02 pm 
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"Investor's Business Daily"

A recent "Investor's Business Daily" article provided very interesting statistics from a survey by the United Nations International Health Organization:

Percentage of men and women who survived a cancer five years after diagnosis:

U.S. 65%

England 46%

Canada 42%

Percentage of patients diagnosed with diabetes who received treatment within six months:

U.S. 93%

England 15%

Canada 43%

Percentage of seniors needing hip replacement who received it within six months:

U.S. 90%

England 15%

Canada 43%

Percentage referred to a medical specialist who see one within one month:

U.S. 77%

England 40%

Canada 43%

Number of MRI scanners (a prime diagnostic tool) per million people:

U.S. 71

England 14

Canada 18

Percentage of seniors (65+), with low income, who say they are in "excellent health":

U.S. 12%

England 2%

Canada 6%


I don't know about you, but I don't want "Universal Healthcare" comparable to England or Canada .

Moreover, it was Sen. Harry Reid who said, "Elderly Americans must learn to accept the inconveniences of old age." I say, SHIP HIS ASS TO CANADA OR ENGLAND !
He is "elderly" himself but be sure to remember his health insurance is different from yours as Congress has their own high-end coverage! He will never have to learn to accept "inconveniences of old age"!!!

AND THE WINNER IS VERY INTERESTING!

the percentage of each past president's cabinet who had worked in the private business sector prior to their appointment to the cabinet. You know what the private business sector is... a real life business, not a government job. Here are the percentages.


T. Roosevelt........ 38%

Taft...................40%

Wilson .................. 52%

Harding................49%

Coolidge............ 48%

Hoover............... 42%

F. Roosevelt......... 50%

Truman................50%

Eisenhower......... 57%

Kennedy............ 30%

Johnson...............47%

Nixon................ 53%

Ford................... 42%

Carter................ 32%

Reagan.................56%

GH Bush................. 51%

Clinton ................. 39%

GW Bush................ 55%

And the winner of the Chicken Dinner is:


Obama................ 8% !!!


Yep! That's right! Only Eight Percent!!!..the least by far of the last 19 presidents!! And these people are trying to tell our big corporations how to run their business? They know what's best for GM...Chrysler...Wall Street...and you and me?

How can the president of a major nation and society...the one with the most successful economic system in world history... stand and talk about business when he's never worked for one?.. or about jobs when he has never really had one?!? And neither has 92% of his senior staff and closest advisers.! They've spent most of their time in academia, government and/or non-profit jobs....or as "community organizers" when they should have been in an employment line.


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 Post subject: Re: A recent "Investor's Business Daily" article
PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 2:20 pm 
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Good post OldDave - Notice how the "Rats" are leaving the sinking ship as election day come closer. :lol:

They will be replaced by a new set of "Rats" for the next two years then this awful social experiment will be over for good. :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: A recent "Investor's Business Daily" article
PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 6:24 pm 
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Investors Business Daily has a stellar track record of epic failures in journalism. We all know that Stephen Hawkings loves his "death panel".

Here's Snopes on that email above:

http://message.snopes.com/showpost.php? ... stcount=17

The fact of the matter is if you've ever had treatment in any European hospital and walked out without paying a cent, you'd understand how disastrous and corrupt the US health care system is.

The US is #37, behind every European country, Columbia and Saudi Arabia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVgOl3cETb4

Sing it proudly...


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 Post subject: Re: A recent "Investor's Business Daily" article
PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 7:21 pm 
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Thank you Hobo, well said. It is those who have never experienced medicine outside this country who speak.
I for one have benefited from Socialized medicine, my brother now lives in Spain and does not pay one cents for his medical, tests & medication are free.
The great thing about socialized medicine is that the price of meds is regulated by the Government, you would never ever pay $ 117.00 for kid's ear drops and that is with insurance here ! The excuse is that the cost covers research, well then why are the Europeans able to find new cures w/o passing the buck onto their citizens ?
The US system is broken and needs fixing.


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 Post subject: Re: A recent "Investor's Business Daily" article
PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 11:16 pm 
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hobo wrote:
Investors Business Daily has a stellar track record of epic failures in journalism. We all know that Stephen Hawkings loves his "death panel".

Here's Snopes on that email above:

http://message.snopes.com/showpost.php? ... stcount=17

The fact of the matter is if you've ever had treatment in any European hospital and walked out without paying a cent, you'd understand how disastrous and corrupt the US health care system is.

The US is #37, behind every European country, Columbia and Saudi Arabia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVgOl3cETb4

Sing it proudly...


HOBO,
all this proves is you quote forums in the UK. that is all balderdash... show a real snopes url backing your UK BS.. because your url is not quoteing snopes


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 Post subject: Re: A recent "Investor's Business Daily" article
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my mother broke her wrist in Italy. Yes, the hospital was free. There was also no soap, toilet paper, FOOD. Thank goodness my sister showed up and spoke the language and was able to get her some food. Now, I'm not saying that those things equal what we are charged for a hospital stay, I am just noting that sometimes you pay for what you get.

Oh, and her wrist? totally set wrong and crooked for the rest of her life.

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 Post subject: Re: A recent "Investor's Business Daily" article
PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:55 am 
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olddave wrote:
HOBO,
all this proves is you quote forums in the UK. that is all balderdash... show a real snopes url backing your UK BS.. because your url is not quoteing snopes


Hmmm... you think message.snopes.com isn't a Snopes URL. The Internet disagrees with you. And Barbara and David P. Mikkelson (who run Snopes) will be very, very upset with you disparaging them.

I know YOU DIDN'T READ the Snopes post, because you only saw one reference from the UK. At the beginning. And then you stopped. That reference was from the UK Government's Office of National Statistics (like the GAO over here), not a forum. Then you completely missed all the other data from:

1) National Cancer Institute (USA)
2) The Canadian Cancer Society
3) International Diabetes Federation
4) CDC (USA)
4) World Health Organization

And that's only the first two points. Come on, YOU give us some real facts to back up your "Investor's Business Daily" BS. If you want to call me on my response, maybe you should have put some verifiable facts in your original post. But you didn't. You just cut & paste it without thinking. Where is the actual evidence for what you posted? Where's the United Nations survey? Where's the original Investors Business Daily article?

CharlieDog wrote:
my mother broke her wrist in Italy. Yes, the hospital was free. There was also no soap, toilet paper, FOOD. Thank goodness my sister showed up and spoke the language and was able to get her some food. Now, I'm not saying that those things equal what we are charged for a hospital stay, I am just noting that sometimes you pay for what you get.

Oh, and her wrist? totally set wrong and crooked for the rest of her life.


What a sad, horrible story. But it makes you really wonder why she didn't change hospitals and get her wrist reset properly... for free... or that she didn't do it when she came back to the US on her "greatest in the world" health insurance. Sometimes the facts we're presented with are only half the story. :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: A recent "Investor's Business Daily" article
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hobo wrote:
olddave wrote:
HOBO,
all this proves is you quote forums in the UK. that is all balderdash... show a real snopes url backing your UK BS.. because your url is not quoteing snopes


Hmmm... you think message.snopes.com isn't a Snopes URL. The Internet disagrees with you. And Barbara and David P. Mikkelson (who run Snopes) will be very, very upset with you disparaging them.

I know YOU DIDN'T READ the Snopes post, because you only saw one reference from the UK. At the beginning. And then you stopped. That reference was from the UK Government's Office of National Statistics (like the GAO over here), not a forum. Then you completely missed all the other data from:

1) National Cancer Institute (USA)
2) The Canadian Cancer Society
3) International Diabetes Federation
4) CDC (USA)
4) World Health Organization

And that's only the first two points. Come on, YOU give us some real facts to back up your "Investor's Business Daily" BS. If you want to call me on my response, maybe you should have put some verifiable facts in your original post. But you didn't. You just cut & paste it without thinking. Where is the actual evidence for what you posted? Where's the United Nations survey? Where's the original Investors Business Daily article?

CharlieDog wrote:
my mother broke her wrist in Italy. Yes, the hospital was free. There was also no soap, toilet paper, FOOD. Thank goodness my sister showed up and spoke the language and was able to get her some food. Now, I'm not saying that those things equal what we are charged for a hospital stay, I am just noting that sometimes you pay for what you get.

Oh, and her wrist? totally set wrong and crooked for the rest of her life.


What a sad, horrible story. But it makes you really wonder why she didn't change hospitals and get her wrist reset properly... for free... or that she didn't do it when she came back to the US on her "greatest in the world" health insurance. Sometimes the facts we're presented with are only half the story. :roll:


YOU ARE A WASTE OF TIME!!. THE END.. BYE, BYE...


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