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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 1:43 pm 
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There's a post on Mayor Sam's blog about Do It Center putting up $325,000 to keep Lowes out of Westlake Village.
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"However it wasn't Home Depot that put major money against the pro-Lowe's measure but - you guessed it - Do It Center! To the tune of $325,000, Do It Center forces, operating under the warm and fuzzy name of "Save Westlake Village," managed to defeat the measure 45% to 55%."

http://mayorsam.blogspot.com/2007/08/ho ... oturf.html


oh for goodness sake, DoIt Center is like a 7-11 compared to HD and Lowes and OSH. As if !
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$325,000 is hardly enough money to hire a law firm to "work full
time" on your case for about 4 months.

$325000 x 1 hour/$500 x 1 week/40 hours x 1 month/4 weeks = 4.06 months of “billable” hours.

Of course not all of the money would go for legal fees, so just a rough
estimate.

In my opinion, OSH and Do It Center are roughly the same size. Based
on the two stores I have been in; La Crescenta and Granada Hills. OSH
does seem to have a larger selection of tools and socks.

So, how much money has been spent by Do It Center for the
Sunland-Tujunga effort? (anticipation of dead silence)


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ben franklin wrote:
PartyOf5 wrote:
Leaving_The_Area wrote:
There's a post on Mayor Sam's blog about Do It Center putting up $325,000 to keep Lowes out of Westlake Village.
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http://mayorsam.blogspot.com/2007/08/ho ... oturf.html


oh for goodness sake, DoIt Center is like a 7-11 compared to HD and Lowes and OSH. As if !
Move on
Next
:roll:


$325,000 is hardly enough money to hire a law firm to "work full
time" on your case for about 4 months.

$325000 x 1 hour/$500 x 1 week/40 hours x 1 month/4 weeks = 4.06 months of “billable” hours.

Of course not all of the money would go for legal fees, so just a rough
estimate.

In my opinion, OSH and Do It Center are roughly the same size. Based
on the two stores I have been in; La Crescenta and Granada Hills. OSH
does seem to have a larger selection of tools and socks.

So, how much money has been spent by Do It Center for the
Sunland-Tujunga effort? (anticipation of dead silence)


I believe that was political contributions.
http://cal-access.ss.ca.gov/Campaign/Co ... ssion=2005


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ben franklin wrote:
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In my opinion, OSH and Do It Center are roughly the same size. Based
on the two stores I have been in; La Crescenta and Granada Hills. OSH
does seem to have a larger selection of tools and socks.

So, how much money has been spent by Do It Center for the
Sunland-Tujunga effort? (anticipation of dead silence)


A little perspective here.
Osh is a subsidiary of Sears Holdings which owns Sears,K-Mart and OSH
OSH has 85 stores
DO-IT CENTER is "affiliated" with Neiman-Reed Lumber Co. and Patio World
DO-IT CENTER has 9 stores

HOME DEPOT has 2170 stores in the US,Canada,China and Mexico.....and 34 EXPO centers.. It has opened 51 new stores in the last six months. It is the second largest retailer in the USA and the Largest Home improvement store in the world.

Frankly Ben (pun here) :wink: I don't give a rat's behind how much help DO-IT offered NO2HD. It was a brilliant strategy that peaked at the precise time required to give NO2HD a victory that can only be described as "David slays Goliath" Sunland-Tujunga Alliance is a political force in the SF Valley that must be reckoned with in the future if they don't let it go to their head and start infighting.


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coop wrote:
ben franklin wrote:
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In my opinion, OSH and Do It Center are roughly the same size. Based
on the two stores I have been in; La Crescenta and Granada Hills. OSH
does seem to have a larger selection of tools and socks.

So, how much money has been spent by Do It Center for the
Sunland-Tujunga effort? (anticipation of dead silence)


A little perspective here.
Osh is a subsidiary of Sears Holdings which owns Sears,K-Mart and OSH
OSH has 85 stores
DO-IT CENTER is "affiliated" with Neiman-Reed Lumber Co. and Patio World
DO-IT CENTER has 9 stores

HOME DEPOT has 2170 stores in the US,Canada,China and Mexico.....and 34 EXPO centers.. It has opened 51 new stores in the last six months. It is the second largest retailer in the USA and the Largest Home improvement store in the world.

Frankly Ben (pun here) :wink: I don't give a rat's behind how much help DO-IT offered NO2HD. It was a brilliant strategy that peaked at the precise time required to give NO2HD a victory that can only be described as "David slays Goliath" Sunland-Tujunga Alliance is a political force in the SF Valley that must be reckoned with in the future if they don't let it go to their head and start infighting.


Let me clarify the confusing aspect of my post:

Yeah, I hear you.

I was not arguing for or against Do-It Center nor was I critizing their tactics.
I prefer the smaller stores like OSH and Do It Center vs. HD. I was trying to point
out the "possible" ridiculous cost of obtaining legal services. I have no idea
how any of the money was allocated or spent. I'm ignorant.

Regarding the store size, I was not comparing the size of the corporations
or their sales, or number of stores. I was comparing the footprint of the
individual stores and thus the impact on the neighborhood. The OSH
stores I have been to don't have the "warehouse" feel to them.

My perception is that based on the size of each store and layouts that
I have seen, Do It Center and OSH are about the same. Strictly emperical
observations on my part.

I understand OSH's affiliation with the old Sears, that is why they sell
quality Craftsman hand tools.

The Kmart-Sears merger was initiated by KMART and they changed the
name of the Holding company to capitalize on the (slightly) better goodwill
the Sears name garners. After all, the KMART chain was emerging from
Chapter 11 and had a "schlocky" reputation, IMO.

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ben franklin wrote:
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You missed my point Ben (or not) . The purpose of that long post was so I could use a play on words with your "Nom de Net" Ben Franklin. "Frankly Ben" and you didn't even comment on it. (probably on purpose :lol:) That's all right, I'm used to rejection :lol:


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coop wrote:
ben franklin wrote:
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You missed my point Ben (or not). The purpose of that long post was so I could use a play on words with your "Nom de Net" Ben Franklin. "Frankly Ben" and you didn't even comment on it. (probably on purpose :lol:) That's all right, I'm used to rejection :lol:

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coop wrote:
A little perspective here.
Osh is a subsidiary of Sears Holdings which owns Sears,K-Mart and OSH
OSH has 85 stores
DO-IT CENTER is "affiliated" with Neiman-Reed Lumber Co. and Patio World
DO-IT CENTER has 9 stores

HOME DEPOT has 2170 stores in the US,Canada,China and Mexico.....and 34 EXPO centers.. It has opened 51 new stores in the last six months. It is the second largest retailer in the USA and the Largest Home improvement store in the world.

Well, that sorta demonstrates HD is implementing it's plan to open a store every 10 miles. It also kind of explain why they want to do that --> build one of your own stores anywhere and everywhere you can, gobble up all the property large enough to accomodate your stores...that way the competition can't even get anywhere near your locations. Zero competiton.

Hmmm, and HD is claiming that Do It Center, with 9 stores, is playing unfair against HD?


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Frankly Ben (pun here) :wink:

I noticed....
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 Post subject: Thank you Do It!
PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:26 pm 
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Thank you Do It Center for assisting in this effort.


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KarenZ wrote:

coop wrote:
Frankly Ben (pun here) :wink:

I noticed....
:wink:


I can always count on you KarenZzzzzz :lol:


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I think I'm missing something here...let me get this straight. If you are a business, you can donate money to oppose another business moving into your neighborhood, unless it is one of your competitors. Then it is unfair for you to do anything about it. Now once the competitor moves into your neighborhood, it is perfectly fair for that competitor to lower their prices until they drive you out of business...
Did I get it right?


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Exactly! :shock:

Here is an article all the way from San Jose. http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_6634812


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coop wrote:

A little perspective here.

HOME DEPOT has 2170 stores in the US,Canada,China and Mexico.....and 34 EXPO centers.. It has opened 51 new stores in the last six months. It is the second largest retailer in the USA and the Largest Home improvement store in the world.


Actually, to call HD second is slightly misleading. HD is huge and would be the big dog in retail were it not for WalMart. But Wally World does more business than the next seven places combined. So, take WalMart out of the equation due to its statistical anomaly skewing the numbers, and you guys may have just beaten the "big guy".

More and more communities are saying no to WalMart, and HD is following in that pattern as well.


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DaveR wrote:
coop wrote:

A little perspective here.

HOME DEPOT has 2170 stores in the US,Canada,China and Mexico.....and 34 EXPO centers.. It has opened 51 new stores in the last six months. It is the second largest retailer in the USA and the Largest Home improvement store in the world.


Actually, to call HD second is slightly misleading. HD is huge and would be the big dog in retail were it not for WalMart. But Wally World does more business than the next seven places combined. So, take WalMart out of the equation due to its statistical anomaly skewing the numbers, and you guys may have just beaten the "big guy".

More and more communities are saying no to WalMart, and HD is following in that pattern as well.


I was comparing HD to OSH and DO-IT center. That is precisely the point that I was trying to make. There's no discounting (sic) the fact that it was a significant feat to rebuff a "big dog" like HD.


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 Post subject: My God We've Been Bribed TOO!
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PartyOf5 wrote:
Leaving_The_Area wrote:
There's a post on Mayor Sam's blog about Do It Center putting up $325,000 to keep Lowes out of Westlake Village.
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"However it wasn't Home Depot that put major money against the pro-Lowe's measure but - you guessed it - Do It Center! To the tune of $325,000, Do It Center forces, operating under the warm and fuzzy name of "Save Westlake Village," managed to defeat the measure 45% to 55%."

http://mayorsam.blogspot.com/2007/08/ho ... oturf.html


oh for goodness sake, DoIt Center is like a 7-11 compared to HD and Lowes and OSH. As if !
Move on
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I got a senior discount from Do-It Center.

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 Post subject: Re: My God We've Been Bribed TOO!
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Doc wrote:

I got a senior discount from Do-It Center.

Doc


Well that is better than having a senior moment!! :lol:

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