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 Post subject: Does this bother anyone else?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:12 pm 
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"Sorry but you cannot use search at this time. Please try again in a few minutes." (I have a raging case of ADHD and concentration is not my strong suit. By the time I am able to search, I've forgotten what I wanted to search for.)

I'm going to put that right up there with -

"Your call is important to us" (Not really - or we would not put you the menu selection maze and why do you put me right through to an agent when I press "Sales")
" Our customer service agents are busy helping other customers" (There is only one agent and it is 2 am in Bangalore).
" Please listen. Our menu selections have recently changed. (No they haven't.)
" Your call may be recorded for quality assurance purposes" (We want to fire anyone that doesn't take a full bucket of abuse from you)
" For English - press 1" (&$$@#$)
" Hi - This is Mayor Antonio Villargairosa.." (Why do I have to listen to him in Spanish when I pressed the $&^^%$ "1" button?)
"...in the meantime , please enjoy this selection from the Los Angeles Philharmonic Orchestra." (I hate tinny distorted music)


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 Post subject: Re: Does this bother anyone else?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:17 pm 
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coop wrote:
"Sorry but you cannot use search at this time. Please try again in a few minutes."

I'm going to put that right up there with -

"Your call is important to us" (Not really - or we would not put you the menu selection maze and why do you put me right through to an agent when I press "Sales")
" Our customer service agents are busy helping other customers" (There is only one agent and it is 2 am in Bangalore).
" Please listen. Our menu selections have recently changed. (No they haven't.)
" Your call may be recorded for quality assurance purposes" (We want to fire anyone that doesn't take a full bucket of abuse from you)
" For English - press 1" (&$$@#$)
" Hi - This is Mayor Antonio Villargairosa.." (Why do I have to listen to him in Spanish when I pressed the $&^^%$ "1" button?)
"...in the meantime , please enjoy this selection from the Los Angeles Philharmonic Orchestra." (I hate tinny distorted music)


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AND LIKE. I agree on all of those. But yes I find that frustrating. It was explained that there was a good reason, I don't recall what it was. But yes it is like getting a busy signal when calling someone on the telephone.

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 Post subject: Re: Does this bother anyone else?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:58 pm 
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Sometimes if you punch 0 (zero) repeatedly you'll get connected to a human because the menu can't handle it.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:06 pm 
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coop wrote:
"Sorry but you cannot use search at this time. Please try again in a few minutes." (I have a raging case of ADHD and concentration is not my strong suit. By the time I am able to search, I've forgotten what I wanted to search for.)



I believe the search interval is throttled to prevent search volume from overloading the database and breaking the site.

As an alternative you can use Google to search the forum. If you wanted to search for "stuff" for example, put this into Google:

stuff site:thefoothillsforum.com

That will give you all pages containing "stuff" on thefoothillsforum.com


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 Post subject: Re: Does this bother anyone else?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:12 pm 
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Once upon a time I was transported into the endless-repeat-loop-from-hell:

"To reach an agent who will help you, press '0'"

<presses '0'>

-ring tone for about two minutes

"I'm sorry, that extension is not taking any calls - transferring call"

-ring tone for about two minutes

"I'm sorry, that extension is not taking any calls - transferring call"

-ring tone for about two minutes


and so on, and on, and on.... :evil:

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:43 pm 
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dane bramage wrote:
Once upon a time I was transported into the endless-repeat-loop-from-hell:

"To reach an agent who will help you, press '0'"

<presses '0'>

-ring tone for about two minutes

"I'm sorry, that extension is not taking any calls - transferring call"

-ring tone for about two minutes

"I'm sorry, that extension is not taking any calls - transferring call"

-ring tone for about two minutes


and so on, and on, and on.... :evil:

Well, I said "sometimes" and "press 0 repeatedly". That means in rapid succession until someone answers. That's worked for me occasionally.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:47 pm 
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dane bramage wrote:
Once upon a time I was transported into the endless-repeat-loop-from-hell:

"To reach an agent who will help you, press '0'"

<presses '0'>

-ring tone for about two minutes

"I'm sorry, that extension is not taking any calls - transferring call"

-ring tone for about two minutes

"I'm sorry, that extension is not taking any calls - transferring call"

-ring tone for about two minutes

and so on, and on, and on.... :evil:


Let me guess...WAMU? or CHASE (now owns WAMU)?

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 Post subject: Re: Does this bother anyone else?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:26 pm 
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If I recall correctly it was a call to an insurance firm...

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 Post subject: Re: Does this bother anyone else?
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dane bramage wrote:
If I recall correctly it was a call to an insurance firm...


That's awful. I have horror stories from dealing with so many banks on short sales. Your hair would stand on end.

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 Post subject: Re: Does this bother anyone else?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 5:35 pm 
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0 # still works on some systems.


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 Post subject: Re: Does this bother anyone else?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:15 pm 
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QueenOfTheMountain wrote:
coop wrote:
"Sorry but you cannot use search at this time. Please try again in a few minutes." (I have a raging case of ADHD and concentration is not my strong suit. By the time I am able to search, I've forgotten what I wanted to search for.)



I believe the search interval is throttled to prevent search volume from overloading the database and breaking the site.


The accounting software that the ISP uses for MySQL is broken. It rounds up query CPU time in whole seconds and uses that as the rolling average for CPU use. Then, at a specific thresh-hold number, they auto-suspend the account for using too much CPU time. It's like pumping $4.01 worth of gas, and getting charged $5. Most ISPs are oblivious to this.

There's one query that consistently brings up the message, the "View Active Topics" link. These results should be cached every minute or so and should not be constantly queried:

search.php?search_id=active_topics


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 Post subject: Re: Does this bother anyone else?
PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:58 am 
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hobo wrote:
The accounting software that the ISP uses for MySQL is broken. It rounds up query CPU time in whole seconds and uses that as the rolling average for CPU use. Then, at a specific thresh-hold number, they auto-suspend the account for using too much CPU time. It's like pumping $4.01 worth of gas, and getting charged $5. Most ISPs are oblivious to this.


The ISP and MySQL aren't involved, the board software (phpBB) handles all of this. It does a simple check to see when you last did a search, or if the load average of the machine is greater than some threshold.

If I get some time, I'll see if I can add some more info to the error message to see which limit is trigger the message.


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I've decreased the time you have to wait between searches, unless you're really fast, you shouldn't see this message (unless something else is broken).


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 Post subject: Re: Does this bother anyone else?
PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 2:32 pm 
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I've noticed that when it happens to me, down at the bottom of the screen the Yahoo and Google Bots are on at the same time. I would imagine that with the bots hitting the site like that, it would make certain features temporarily unavailable.

Right now the Yahoo Bot is on, and I'm able to use the "New Posts" link fine. When both of them are on, forget it.


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